MINKOFF: So can I jump in here for a second? And that's why we don't have these players coming out while they're active. It's because it's very casual and it's off-the-cuff, and it doesn't seem like it's a big deal, until it is. But for me, it's that type of talk which is always - you know, that's how a stigma sort of festers. It's the guys who are joking about this very casually as if there's nothing wrong with it, as if you can be a normal person and really be that insensitive.Īnd, you know, maybe we have different barriers, different thresholds for PC-ness. It's oftentimes not the guys who are beating their Bibles and going fire and brimstone on everybody. It's fine.īut what I am troubled by is this is the exact type of language which is really troublesome in the NFL and in sports, in particular. I mean, what I grant is that the guy doesn't get interviewed very much. But it's not like this was a very tough IQ test, either. It's not sitting across the table from Charlie Rose. I mean, it's not like he was having a - again, it's Artie Lange. It's the matter of being not quite so insensitive. And the first time I heard this, I was just like, you've got to be kidding me. TORRE: So, I guess where I differ with you on this is that, you know - well, I guess what was problematic for me and disappointing for me, as somebody who sees anybody with that sort of opinion as being on the wrong side of history, the reason why I'm troubled by this is because he's from the San Francisco 49ers. First off, Jimi, I would have loved to have gone to that bar. MARTIN: Can I just clarify one thing, Pablo? That he also went on mic to apologize, too. He doesn't need to be, you know, crucified for this. You know, everybody gets that right to be dumb, you know, at some point, to be ignorant at some point, and then have their opinion evolve. I worked in the gay bar for four years, and my opinion had to evolve. It took me some time, for my opinion to evolve. And it always seems, especially with matters that involve homosexuality, that black men, black men are always bullied for not evolving fast enough, in their opinion.
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You know, it bothers me that we bully people for their opinions not being PC enough in any given moment. You know, let him - his opinion evolve, like our president's opinion had to evolve at some point. And number two, I'm not sure if we should persecute him because he's ignorant. It's a bug-out to me, that I really feel like he was led into this line of questioning that was designed to make him look kind of silly. For example, previously, Lange had asked him whether he would be hooking up with women or men before the game. And he said he was thrown off by being asked, quote, "real disrespectful," unquote, questions. MARTIN: So, Culliver later apologized for those comments and he said he was - through a spokesman. You got to come out 10 years later, after that. So they'd have to stay - keep it a secret?ĬULLIVER: Yeah. You can't be - you can't be in the locker room.
LANGE: But they might be able to play well. You know, they got up out of here if they do. (SOUNDBITE OF RADIO SHOW, "THE ARTIE LANGE SHOW")ĬHRIS CULLIVER: We don't got no gay people on the team. MARTIN: So then, anyway, Artie Lange asked Culliver about whether there were any gay players on the team, and this is what he said. They prefer talk show personality, or something like that. He's known as a regular guest for Howard Stern, commonly called a shock jock, although they hate that term. Culliver - just to sort of give you the back story, he was approached by radio personality Artie Lange. Michel, oh, man, we got a sports star caught up in a controversy. I can't cheer for the Browns, but there's always next year, right? But some fans - you know, some fans are thinking twice about rooting for the San Francisco 49ers after quarterback Chris Culliver got caught up in a controversy. You know I'm from Cleveland, right? So I've got to represent. Joining us from Boston, former doctor, now health care consultant and a contributor to National Review magazine, Neil Minkoff. studios, along with civil rights attorney Arsalan Iftikhar. Sitting in the chairs for a shape-up this week are writer and culture critic Jimi Izrael.
Now it's time for our weekly visit to the Barber Shop, where the guys talk about what's in the news and what's on their minds. I'm Michel Martin, and this is TELL ME MORE, from NPR News.
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